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		<title>looking for a friends and family convertible loan doc</title>
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Just extending on William&#8217;s warning &#8211; boilerplate legal
documents are Very Convenient&#8482; and great if you need a cheap legal
document to tick a box for some cosmetic, unimportant reason; but usually Not
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />
color:#1F497D'>Just extending on William&#8217;s warning &#8211; boilerplate legal<br />
documents are <i>Very Convenient&#8482;</i> and great if you need a cheap legal<br />
document to tick a box for some cosmetic, unimportant reason; but usually <i>Not<br />
So Great At All&#8482;</i> if it ever comes to actually <i>disputing</i> them. Which<br />
is kind of the point of a legal document in the first place. Boilerplates as a<br />
rule are horrible in any situation where the outcome of any dispute is<br />
important or critical to you. If it&#8217;s critical, the cost of getting the<br />
agreement drafted by a competent lawyer is 200% worth it. Remember that the best<br />
contract is one that keeps you out of court in the first place. That is best achieved<br />
by ensuring all parties are clear on what is being agreed and providing an<br />
effective non-legal dispute resolution mechanism.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />
color:#1F497D'>If you&#8217;re not willing to work with a lawyer, the big question is<br />
&#8211; why do you really need a legal document? If you don&#8217;t need it don&#8217;t use it,<br />
because it will be harder to understand and probably won&#8217;t save your neck if it<br />
ever goes to court (often leaving you worse off than if you had no legal<br />
document). We once used a boilerplate contract and later when we had our lawyer<br />
look over it, were advised that it was only enforceable by the other party &#8211; the<br />
worst possible scenario. (We promptly amended the contract!) The most important<br />
things about a contract is establishing intent and obligations, and a clear<br />
mechanism for dispute resolution. If you&#8217;re not willing to work with a lawyer,<br />
you&#8217;re probably better off with a clear non-legal document that everyone<br />
understands &#8211; e.g. Keep It Simple and Sweet (for all parties). If everyone&#8217;s<br />
happy, there&#8217;s no dispute!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />
color:#1F497D'>When it comes to equity or partnerships, my emphatic (but<br />
non-legally-qualified) advice is Work With A Lawyer (else, be clear that you&#8217;re<br />
relying upon goodwill &#8211; and go out of your way to preserve it).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />
  color:#1589FF'>Rob Morris<b><br />
  </b></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />
  color:#333333'>Managing Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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  color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />
  color:#333333'>+44 20 3287 9297<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";<br />
  color:#1589FF'><a href="http://siliconspider.com/"><span style='color:#1589FF'>siliconspider.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;<br />
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> [address removed]<br />
[mailto:[address removed]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Robins<br />
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 30 April 2009 4:17 PM<br />
<b>To:</b> [address removed]<br />
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [entrepreneur-1056] Re: looking for a friends and family<br />
convertible loan doc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sophie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Netlawman.com<br />
are quite helpful.&nbsp; However you have to be legal savvy to know how to use<br />
them.&nbsp; Just one thing to watch out for guys using them is that their<br />
documents might not be binding.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Here is<br />
the small print from their website:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=footersmalltxt><strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Health<br />
warning:</span></strong> Our terms and conditions state clearly that we are not<br />
liable for any issue arising out of our advice.&nbsp; We insist on that because<br />
we cannot control what you tell us and we have no opportunity to take full<br />
instructions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Best<br />
wishes,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span<br />
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>William<br />
Robins</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Partner</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#4D4D4D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#595959'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#C0D832'>dd:</span><span<br />
lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#4D4D4D'>&nbsp;<br />
020 7152 6550</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#C0D832'>m:&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />
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color:#4D4D4D'>07720 836 636</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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partners, is open to inspection at the registered office being Matrix Studios,<br />
91 Peterborough Road, London SW6 3BU. The term partner is used to refer to a<br />
member of Keystone Law or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing<br />
and qualifications. The members are either solicitors or registered foreign<br />
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span<br />
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br />
[address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] <b>On Behalf<br />
Of </b>Sophie Garrett<br />
<b>Sent:</b> 30 April 2009 09:47<br />
<b>To:</b> [address removed]<br />
<b>Subject:</b> [entrepreneur-1056] Re: looking for a friends and family<br />
convertible loan doc</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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&#62; Hello All
&#62;
&#62; I'm setting up a business bank account for my company, and I haven't heard
&#62; great things about banks and their treatment (or lack of) business account
&#62; customers.
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&#62; Do people have any suggestions? Also, should my choice be between companies
&#62; (i.e. HSBC vs. Abbey) or based on other factors, [...]]]></description>
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<pre>2009/4/29 Stony Grunow &lt;[address removed]&gt;:<br />
&gt; Hello All<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I'm setting up a business bank account for my company, and I haven't heard<br />
&gt; great things about banks and their treatment (or lack of) business account<br />
&gt; customers.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Do people have any suggestions? Also, should my choice be between companies<br />
&gt; (i.e. HSBC vs. Abbey) or based on other factors, like number of branches, or<br />
&gt; proximity to my house / office, or does it just come down to getting a good<br />
&gt; bank manager and hoping he doesn't move branches / jobs?</p>
<p>Only just created an account myself, and I went with HSBC. I initially tried<br />
to open an online and in branch account with Barclays. The online account<br />
was supposed to take 7 days to complete, more than 4 weeks and several<br />
phone calls later I have heard nothing. Worse, I have been promised<br />
feedback and they just do not seem to bother to call back even when they<br />
commit to do so. And when I did call to follow up I had to explain the same<br />
problem at length, even to the same person.</p>
<p>In contrast HSBC was a pleasure. I made an appointment with my local<br />
branch, and left with an account number. They confirmed account<br />
creation by<br />
telephone. They give 18 months free business accounts, but I think<br />
Internet transactions continue to be free after that. Ask.</p>
<p>I decided to go with HSBC since they are supposed to be reasonable<br />
to good online, and it also lets me spread my risk ito. where I do my<br />
banking. There is a local branch, the local business account manager seems<br />
fine, and I have been given a recommendation for HSBC, though another<br />
branch.</p>
<p>I decided to try Barclays since they are big and I thought I'd not<br />
have to interact<br />
much with them. Also having a personal account with them was supposed<br />
to simplify<br />
the requirements for the business account (the primary reason).</p>
<p>&gt; If this makes a difference, bank loans are not going to be needed in the<br />
&gt; near future (though an overdraft never hurts), and our weekly transactions<br />
&gt; are expected to be low, as we are an IT consulting company.</p>
<p>-R
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&#160;
Thanks for those who have taken the time
to provide constructive feedback to the Million Dollar Videos site. Here are
the answers to some of the questions:
&#160;
Figures
&#160;
Yes, the revenue per page is £78,400 from 14
x 16 squares (one page). The goal is to raise $1m from 10 pages worth of videos
(£784,000 or $1m). 
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for those who have taken the time<br />
to provide constructive feedback to the Million Dollar Videos site. Here are<br />
the answers to some of the questions:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Figures<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes, the revenue per page is £78,400 from 14<br />
x 16 squares (one page). The goal is to raise $1m from 10 pages worth of videos<br />
(£784,000 or $1m). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Once a page is full, then the companies<br />
who uploaded a video on that page can apply for the £5000 grant.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>50% of<br />
Profits<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>50% of the profits (note profits, not<br />
revenue) will go to UK SME Investments. As the videos on the site will be there<br />
for the next 5 years, the remainder of the funds will be used to cover the<br />
server and IT costs to host the videos for that period, as well as the costs organizing<br />
the allocation of the grants and taxes. These include &#8211; going through<br />
every grant application, inviting finalists to a final interview, choosing the<br />
finalists, room booking costs, costs for the awarding committees etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Grants will be awarded ten times (i.e. after<br />
each page has been filled with videos) which adds to the costs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The commitment is to help at least 50 businesses<br />
in this way as stated on the website, and hopefully more. I am currently in<br />
talks to split a portion of the proceeds to The Prices Trust too, in order to<br />
help with their young enterprise program.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Lottery<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Million Dollar Videos is not a lottery,<br />
does not adhere to any lottery laws in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place<br />
 w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> or abroad, and has no intention<br />
of being a lottery at all. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Grants will be awarded based on the strength<br />
of the application and awarded by an independent committee consisting of those<br />
chosen by the fund at a panel interview. The committee will include: a partner<br />
from a global audit company, a Director from a global bank, a partner from a<br />
law firm and respected angel investor. All have kindly provided their time for<br />
this cause.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Grants are provided as cash contributions<br />
and must be supported by specific purchase list of equipment, marketing spend<br />
etc. to the value of £5000. Cheques will be signed off by two members of the<br />
committee. The grant is not a loan or an equity investment and does not have to<br />
be re-paid in any time period by the company awarded the grant.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Contract<br />
Information<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sure &#8211; agree with this comment that<br />
there should be more contact information and will update the website to allow<br />
for this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Large Corporates<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The site is intended for small and medium<br />
sized businesses. If a large corporate puts a video on the site then there&#8217;s<br />
not much I can do about it &#8211; but it is a good point and I will change the<br />
marketing strategy to target SMEs instead. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am already speaking at a number of<br />
events, fairs etc which are solely for SMEs. The next event I am speaking at is<br />
the East Midlands Live event (</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a<br />
href="http://www.embusinesslive.com/seminars.html">http://www.embusinesslive.com/seminars.html</a>)<br />
<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>in May.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;<br />
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color="#003366" face=Arial><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#003366;font-weight:bold'>Communication<br />
on Website<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;<br />
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agreed that the communication of the<br />
message on the website could be better and I will add more detail on the site<br />
to answer some of these questions in advance which are good questions.</span></font><font<br />
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;<br />
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color="#003366" face=Arial><span<br />
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#003366;font-weight:bold'>Genuine<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is a genuine site to help SMEs. I<br />
have my own small business and I&#8217;m sure other small businesses have had<br />
the same problems as me &#8211; in raising money, applying for government funding<br />
etc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As this forum is largely for entrepreneurs,<br />
we should have the skills and ability to do something about the current economic<br />
situation in this country and not rely on the government &#8211; I am trying to<br />
do my bit to help. We are all in the same boat and nobody will come and save<br />
our businesses &#8211; hence I believe we need to help each other.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am happy to meet up and discuss /answer<br />
any more questions on this with anyone else at the Thursday coffee meetings or<br />
on a one &#8211; to &#8211;one level &#8211; just drop me a line and I&#8217;ll get<br />
back in touch.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:<br />
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for all the feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2<br />
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName<br />
w:st="on">[address removed]</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName<br />
w:st="on">[address removed]</st1:PersonName>] <b><span<br />
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Antony Penn<br />
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 29 April 2009 15:35<br />
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">[address removed]</st1:PersonName><br />
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [entrepreneur-1056]<br />
Apply for a £5000 grant to help your business</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3<br />
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sorry everyone but IMHO<br />
this is the worst investment i&#8217;ve seen suggested for a very long time, and I<br />
seriously doubt the integrity of the website.</p>
<p>None of the figures on this add up:</p>
<p>14 x 16 video slots = 224 squares.<br />
224 x £350 per video = £78,400<br />
But you are hoping to raise $1m (should that be £1m?)<br />
You need 2,857 videos to raise 1 million.</p>
<p>You say half a million will go to businesses, yet then state 50 businesses at<br />
£5k each = 250,000</p>
<p>£5,000 will indeed help a lot of businessesm but this is a lottery, not a<br />
grant.<br />
Why pay £350 for a 1 in 200 chance of winning £5,000 ??<br />
This is business suicide.</p>
<p>Small business advertising is crazy and very difficult to get right.<br />
Spend that £350 on MARKETING<br />
Spend that week of effort that WOULD HAVE gone in to editing said video on<br />
driving your business forward instead &#8211; If there&#8217;s one thing small business do<br />
not have enough of it is time. Do not waste it on distractions like this.</p>
<p>Whoever put this site together really didn&#8217;t think it through, or at the very<br />
least has completely mis-communicated it.<br />
Think before you spend your money people!</p>
<p>Rant over.</p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span<br />
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 29/04/2009, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Omar<br />
Miah</span></b> &lt;[address removed]&gt;<br />
wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'>faisal<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#444444" face="Times New Roman"><span<br />
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'>like the idea &#8211; hope it works<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#444444" face="Times New Roman"><span<br />
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'>can i ask where the £350 goes? who<br />
benefits from this payment?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#444444" face="Times New Roman"><span<br />
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'>constructive criticism: i really really<br />
don&#8217;t like it when you can&#8217;t see any real contact information &#8211; like a phone<br />
number and address<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#444444" face="Times New Roman"><span<br />
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'>looks very unprofessional<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#444444" face="Times New Roman"><span<br />
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'>for all we know, you could be some<br />
indian in banglalore who has already made a small sum from the advertisers you<br />
have already!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'>: )<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#444444'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#888888'>omar<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:<br />
12.0pt'>On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Geoffrey McCaleb &lt;[address removed]&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>£350 to upload<br />
a video to a milliondollarhomepage clone?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I guess<br />
I&#8217;m missing the part how 224 videos x £350 list fee &#8211; 50 grants x £5,000<br />
actually works&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hey, I&#8217;m<br />
not knocking the idea, I just think the whole &quot;giving back&quot; vibe<br />
seems to run counter to what the site looks to be achieving (at least by now<br />
there are more non-corp videos knocking around).&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Geoffrey<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Wed,<br />
29 Apr 2009 07:37:56 -0400, Tobias &lt;[address removed]&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;<br />
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3<br />
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Maybe Im missing<br />
something here but how does &quot;the opportunity for small and medium sized<br />
businesses to advertise&quot; = Toshiba, Apple, Cadburys etc.</p>
<p>I like the idea, but if the site becomes a cheap advertising home for large<br />
corporates it&#8217;s not going to fly.&nbsp; The large company videos on your site<br />
are like watching bad commercials on TV. </p>
<p>What is up with that?</p>
<p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3<br />
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: [address removed]<br />
To: [address removed]<br />
Subject: [entrepreneur-1056] Apply for a £5000 grant to help your business<br />
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:09:38 -0400<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>Hi All,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;m doing my bit to help kick start the economy and<br />
believe we can do this by supporting the small and medium sized businesses<br />
(SME&#8217;s) which contribute to over 90% of the jobs in this country.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>Hence, I&#8217;ve set up a website called Million Dollar<br />
Videos <a href="http://www.milliondollarvideos.com/" target="_blank">www.milliondollarvideos.com</a>.&nbsp;<br />
The idea is simple &#8211; businesses place a small video advert of their product on<br />
the site to help them generate more sales, for a small fee.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>The goal is to raise $1m of which half of the profits will go<br />
into an independent fund called &#8216;UK SME Investments&#8217;. This will<br />
provide £5000 grants to the most deserving businesses to help with marketing,<br />
developing new products and hopefully increasing sales and employment for this<br />
country.&nbsp; The fund expects to help at least 50 businesses in this way.<br />
Businesses which place an advert are eligible to apply for the grant.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>A number of media companies are running with this story,<br />
including The Guardian, ITN etc. to generate awareness and I will be speaking<br />
at a number of small business events about this too.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>If you have a small or medium sized business, then it would<br />
certainly be worth applying for &#8211; I believe £5000 can make a big difference to<br />
any business.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>Many thanks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
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yes I know a great plugin for this &#8211; http://tobias.baethge.com/wordpress-plugins/wp-table-reloaded-english/
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<p>yes I know a great plugin for this &#8211; <br /><a href="http://tobias.baethge.com/wordpress-plugins/wp-table-reloaded-english/">http://tobias.baethge.com/wordpress-plugins/wp-table-reloaded-english/</a></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Simone <span dir="ltr">&lt;[address removed]&gt;</span> wrote:</p>
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<div>Op 29-apr-2009, om 17:26 heeft Antony Penn het volgende geschreven:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">They are all pretty much as bad as each other. Go for one that you can easily get to from your normal place of work, and hope any nice small business manager you might find doesn&#39;t move!!</p>
<p>I know HSBC and some others will give you a year&#39;s free banking, but check the charges after this.</p>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 29/04/2009, <b class="gmail_sendername">Stony Grunow</b> &lt;[address removed]&gt; wrote:</span><br />
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<div>Hello All</p>
<p>I&#39;m setting up a business bank account for my company, and I haven&#39;t heard great things about banks and their treatment (or lack of) business account customers. </p>
<p>Do people have any suggestions? Also, should my choice be between companies (i.e. HSBC vs. Abbey) or based on other factors, like number of branches, or proximity to my house / office, or does it just come down to getting a good bank manager and hoping he doesn&#39;t move branches / jobs?</p>
<p>If this makes a difference, bank loans are not going to be needed in the near future (though an overdraft never hurts), and our weekly transactions are expected to be low, as we are an IT consulting company.</p>
<p>Many thanks</p>
<p>stony<br /><a href="http://citrusconsultants.com" target="_blank">citrusconsultants.com</a><br /><span> </p>
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<p>I&#39;m setting up a business bank account for my company, and I haven&#39;t heard great things about banks and their treatment (or lack of) business account customers. </p>
<p>Do people have any suggestions? Also, should my choice be between companies (i.e. HSBC vs. Abbey) or based on other factors, like number of branches, or proximity to my house / office, or does it just come down to getting a good bank manager and hoping he doesn&#39;t move branches / jobs?</p>
<p>If this makes a difference, bank loans are not going to be needed in the near future (though an overdraft never hurts), and our weekly transactions are expected to be low, as we are an IT consulting company.</p>
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I&#8217;ve used lloyds as well &#8211; pretty poor online system (doesn&#8217;t update
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It seemed very bureaucratic and old fashioned next to the coop.
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<p>I&#8217;ve used lloyds as well &#8211; pretty poor online system (doesn&#8217;t update<br />
until the next day!)</p>
<p>It seemed very bureaucratic and old fashioned next to the coop.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span<br />
 style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I<br />
have been trying to setup a business account with HSBC for a<br />
new business and 4 weeks on I am still waiting. However, have been with<br />
RBS previously<br />
who were not good and currently I am using Lloyds who are ok.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">HSBC<br />
do have a great Internet banking system though which makes<br />
things a lot easier.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Jenner, stirring the pot of entrepreneurial magic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello All</p>
<p>I&#8217;m setting up a business bank account for my company, and I haven&#8217;t<br />
heard<br />
great things about banks and their treatment (or lack of) business<br />
account<br />
customers. </p>
<p>Do people have any suggestions? Also, should my choice be between<br />
companies<br />
(i.e. HSBC vs. Abbey) or based on other factors, like number of<br />
branches, or<br />
proximity to my house / office, or does it just come down to getting a<br />
good<br />
bank manager and hoping he doesn&#8217;t move branches / jobs?</p>
<p>If this makes a difference, bank loans are not going to be needed in<br />
the near<br />
future (though an overdraft never hurts), and our weekly transactions<br />
are<br />
expected to be low, as we are an IT consulting company.</p>
<p>Many thanks</p>
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co-op worked well for me.
Stony Grunow wrote:
Hello All
I&#8217;m setting up a business bank account for my company, and I haven&#8217;t
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<p>co-op worked well for me.</p>
<p>Stony Grunow wrote:</p>
<blockquote cite="mid:567449182.1241019819500.JavaMail.nobody@james3"<br />
 type="cite"><p>Hello All</p>
<p>I&#8217;m setting up a business bank account for my company, and I haven&#8217;t<br />
heard great things about banks and their treatment (or lack of)<br />
business account customers. </p>
<p>Do people have any suggestions? Also, should my choice be between<br />
companies (i.e. HSBC vs. Abbey) or based on other factors, like number<br />
of branches, or proximity to my house / office, or does it just come<br />
down to getting a good bank manager and hoping he doesn&#8217;t move branches<br />
/ jobs?</p>
<p>If this makes a difference, bank loans are not going to be needed in<br />
the near future (though an overdraft never hurts), and our weekly<br />
transactions are expected to be low, as we are an IT consulting company.</p>
<p>Many thanks</p>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Regards,

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From my experience a few years ago &#8211; it could be quite expensive.
On the recommendation of a friend, I first registered it in New Zealand
which was quite cheap.
If you&#8217;re interested in that route I could dig out the patent
attorney&#8217;s we used.
Anton wrote:
Hello all,

  
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<p>From my experience a few years ago &#8211; it could be quite expensive.</p>
<p>On the recommendation of a friend, I first registered it in New Zealand<br />
which was quite cheap.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in that route I could dig out the patent<br />
attorney&#8217;s we used.</p>
<p>Anton wrote:</p>
<blockquote cite="mid:872870025.1241014925667.JavaMail.nobody@james2"<br />
 type="cite"><p>Hello all,</p>
<div>
  </div>
<div>My first even question here ! I&#8217;m sure it has been asked before<br />
but here we go:</div>
<div>
  </div>
<div>We thinking of developing a very innovative comparison website<br />
in the retail sector. We would like to present the &#8220;patent route&#8221; to<br />
our investors and I&#8217;m wondering what budget and time scale we should<br />
set aside for that?</div>
<div>
  </div>
<div>Much appreciated</div>
<div>
  </div>
<div>Anton</div>
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My first even question here ! I&#8217;m sure it has been asked before but here we go:

We thinking of developing a very innovative comparison website in the retail sector. We would like to present the &#8220;patent route&#8221; to our investors and I&#8217;m wondering what budget and time scale we should set aside for that?

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<p>Hello all,
<div></div>
<div>My first even question here ! I&#8217;m sure it has been asked before but here we go:</div>
<div></div>
<div>We thinking of developing a very innovative comparison website in the retail sector. We would like to present the &#8220;patent route&#8221; to our investors and I&#8217;m wondering what budget and time scale we should set aside for that?</div>
<div></div>
<div>Much appreciated</div>
<div></div>
<div>Anton</div>
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