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looking for a friends and family convertible loan doc

Rob Morris — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:46:00 +0000

Just extending on William’s warning – boilerplate legal
documents are Very Convenient™ and great if you need a cheap legal
document to tick a box for some cosmetic, unimportant reason; but usually Not
So Great At All™ if it ever comes to actually disputing them. Which
is kind of the point of a legal document in the first place. Boilerplates as a
rule are horrible in any situation where the outcome of any dispute is
important or critical to you. If it’s critical, the cost of getting the
agreement drafted by a competent lawyer is 200% worth it. Remember that the best
contract is one that keeps you out of court in the first place. That is best achieved
by ensuring all parties are clear on what is being agreed and providing an
effective non-legal dispute resolution mechanism.

If you’re not willing to work with a lawyer, the big question is
– why do you really need a legal document? If you don’t need it don’t use it,
because it will be harder to understand and probably won’t save your neck if it
ever goes to court (often leaving you worse off than if you had no legal
document). We once used a boilerplate contract and later when we had our lawyer
look over it, were advised that it was only enforceable by the other party – the
worst possible scenario. (We promptly amended the contract!) The most important
things about a contract is establishing intent and obligations, and a clear
mechanism for dispute resolution. If you’re not willing to work with a lawyer,
you’re probably better off with a clear non-legal document that everyone
understands – e.g. Keep It Simple and Sweet (for all parties). If everyone’s
happy, there’s no dispute!

When it comes to equity or partnerships, my emphatic (but
non-legally-qualified) advice is Work With A Lawyer (else, be clear that you’re
relying upon goodwill – and go out of your way to preserve it).

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convertible loan doc

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are quite helpful. However you have to be legal savvy to know how to use
them. Just one thing to watch out for guys using them is that their
documents might not be binding.

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liable for any issue arising out of our advice. We insist on that because
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Guys,

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(Viral marketing has just played me like a pawn… again)

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Sometimes, Costa, it feels like FWs Anonymous. Maybe there’s a
12 step process to disengagement?

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@Tavinder & @Naresh & anyone else that doesn’t read what
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Let me tell you my personal experience.

I signed up about 7 days ago – just plain and simple
registration, nothing else. Had a brief look at the site and decided to check
out details after long meeting. Came back from the meeting and saw my inbox
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Jill : At the risk of offending you I have to point out
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Rolling on the floor laughing.

I’ve been on this list a number of months and can only reach the
conclusion that a lot of wannabee / existing entrepreneurs are qualifying
themselves out of any serious consideration by any potential
investors/partners/collaborators etc by showing their inability to read simple
instructions.

If I was an angel/investor on this list, I would never part with
cash to someone who cannot understand the simple principle of how this email
list works and how to get off it again…

Just also an opportunity to say that I find this service really
valuable, I’ve taken much from the conversations and used directly or
indirectly with regards to my business.

Thank you to everyone who makes the effort to reply and add
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@Tavinder & @Naresh & anyone else that doesn’t read what
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Jill

Let me tell you my personal experience.

When someone shouts in caps "PLEASE STOP COPYING ME
INTO … " , it would help if the moderators took their feedback to
improve the service and not treat them as dummies.

Jill : At the risk of offending you I have to point out that
your comments appear pedantic, completely unnecessary and in poor taste.

Naresh

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:28:17 -0400

Rolling on the floor laughing.

If I was an angel/investor on this list, I would never part with
cash to someone who cannot understand the simple principle of how this email
list works and how to get off it again…

Just also an opportunity to say that I find this service really
valuable, I’ve taken much from the conversations and used directly or
indirectly with regards to my business.

Thank you to everyone who makes the effort to reply and add
value. I won’t waste any more of your time…

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London SE1 0HX

Mob: 07974 670 946

Tel: 020 7593 3035

Fax: 020 7593 3029

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geek n rolla

Brian Milnes — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:10:00 +0000

Just checked with “Business Link in London” and (not
that you’d know it from their web site) they have a Provider Registration
Database. You need to call and ask for the forms which they’ll email you.
You need to have offices “in London”.

There is no charge to register.

This is a part of the revised national Business Link “engagement
model”: The Information, Diagnostic, Brokerage Service (IDB).

(For a classic look at what motivates Bus. Link Management, [and
an exemplar of poor graphic design] have a look at how Business Link in London
report their first year operating the new model:

href="http://www.lda.gov.uk/upload/pdf/Public_Item_03_2_1_Appendix_1_Evaluations_Gateway_D_E.pdf">http://www.lda.gov.uk/upload/pdf/Public_Item_03_2_1_Appendix_1_Evaluations_Gateway_D_E.pdf)

Brian

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If
you contact your local business link they will explain how to register in their
Supplier Brokerage Service (they each have their own variant).

style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>These
systems allow clients to search for suitable service providers, who have skills
and experience pertaining to their business needs. The clients can then select
who they wish to use.

style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Otherwise,
it depends upon creating relationships with Business Link advisors and teams. And
in that, I wish you the very best of luck…

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Brian

Can
you say how one goes about getting on the other side in relation to Business
Link?

i.e.
become a paid advisor like yourself

Omar

On
Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Brian Milnes <[address removed]>
wrote:

Go to Business Link, Tobias,
they can give you such advice.

They also have a scheme called
eVouchers (£130/£70 plus “specials”) which they can give you to
spend with advisers who can help you in the process of developing (or ditching)
your ideas. I’ve helped around 15 startups under this scheme during the
last 12 months.

Brian

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07971 886 113

01223 690 550

From: lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Tobias
Sent: 22 April 2009 14:07

lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

Hello people

Im brand new to meetup and was wondering if you regularly get investors along
to chat? I need some advice about structuring a business plan.

Any feedback appreciated.

Thanks

From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:17:41 -0400

Getting painful. See the end of
the email. Or go to target="_blank">http://www.meetup.com/account/comm/ to change your settings.

Marc Bridgen

GigJunkie

4th Floor

95 Southwark Street

London SE1 0HX

Mob: 07974 670 946

Tel: 020 7593 3035

Fax: 020 7593 3029

Trading Company is
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From: lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Omar Miah
Sent: 22 April 2009 11:02
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

Chris

I have to agree with you

It really winds me up getting blatant spam/rubbish emails

But… there *are* some really good and useful discussions

I’ve personally found some of the links posted in discussions really useful

+ I’m sure there must be an option to only receive a ‘daily digest’ of
emails – as opposed to receiving every single email?

Not 100% sure, but that functionality is available on most forum type
platforms

So, instead of getting every reply, you’ll just get the one daily email?

Omar

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Chris Padfield <[address removed]>
wrote:

Michael,

Every week at least someone
complains on this list about getting too much mail despite the quite useful
conversations that occur; yes there is the occasional rubbish ? but every
discussion forum/group has that issue.

If you are struggling with your
inbox; rather than preventing group conversation (one of the reasons for having
it) perhaps you can consider one of these options:

1. style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Unsubscribe from the group

If you don?t want to do this
because you want access to the group but not the mail then:

2. style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Set up a filter to delete mail from the group.
If you are unsure how to do this, I am sure someone on the list can explain.

Or, which I imagine is what most
people on this list do, including me:

3. style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Filter the mail into a folder so you can
check it when you have a bit of time ? and rapidly delete everything (most
email applications even let you empty whole folders with one click) quickly if
you do not.

Hopefully one of these solutions
will work for you.

Best Regards,

Chris

_________________

Chris Padfield | Investment Manager | London
Business Angels & London Seed Capital
[address removed] | 020 7089 2309
GLE Growth Capital, New City Court, 20 St Thomas Street. London SE1 9RS
target="_blank">www.lbangels.co.uk

From: [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Michael Fotoohi
Sent: 22 April 2009 09:41

To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

Just a typical stupid respose as usual. Go and do something
useful.

From: [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Mitzi Szereto
Sent: 22 April 2009 03:22
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>Error! Filename not
specified.

"Errant Ramblings: Mitzi Szereto’s
Weblog" href="http://mitziszereto.com/blog" target="_blank">http://mitziszereto.com/blog
Twitter: @mitziszereto
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— On Wed, 22/4/09, Fabrice Ward <[address removed]>
wrote:

From: Fabrice Ward <[address removed]>

Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla
To: [address removed]
Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 3:07 AM

Nope, sorry.
Don?t usually reply, but a whingeing mail like this is just irresistible.

On 22/04/2009 01:32, "Michael Fotoohi"
<[address removed]>
wrote:

Hi
Guys,

Can you please use your private emails and not send a broadcast to everyone.
I spend a hell of a lot of time deleting my inbox all day because of this.

DON?T YOU REPLY TO ALL!!!!!

Regards,

Mike

From: [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Mitzi Szereto
Sent: 20 April 2009 14:40
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

i wish!

"Errant Ramblings: Mitzi Szereto’s
Weblog" href="http://mitziszereto.com/blog" target="_blank">http://mitziszereto.com/blog
Twitter: @mitziszereto
Also at Facebook, MySpace,LinkedIn, Plaxo, Flickr, Tumblr, Plurk, Hi5,
etc.

— On Mon, 20/4/09, simon <[address removed]>
wrote: From: simon <[address removed]>

Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

To: [address removed]

Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 2:32
PM mitzi – so your the investor with £10 million to invest! c u
there

From: [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Mitzi Szereto
Sent: 20 April 2009 14:28
To: [address removed]
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla style='font-size:11.0pt'>
just speak to me. you don’t need anyone else. :p

"Errant Ramblings: Mitzi Szereto’s
Weblog" href="http://mitziszereto.com/blog" target="_blank">http://mitziszereto.com/blog
Twitter: @mitziszereto
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— On Mon, 20/4/09, simon <[address removed]>
wrote: From: simon <[address removed]>

Subject: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla
To: [address removed]

Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 2:15
PM does anyone know if geek n rolla will have coloured lanards, like
at first tue, etc? so you know you are investors, service providers,
investors, etc. makes trying to speak to 250 people easier! style='font-size:11.0pt'>

From: [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Matt Rogers
Sent: 20 April 2009 13:48
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla style='font-size:11.0pt'> We?ll also be there to announce the launch, after
2 years in stealth mode, of Aroxo! By the way, you can sign up for an email
alert when we go live here: www.aroxo.com
<http://www.aroxo.com>
. Cheers, Error!
Filename not specified.Matt Rogers -
Co-Founder style='font-size:8.0pt'>Aroxo < target="_blank">http://www.aroxo.com/> - Earth’s marketplace style='font-size:11.0pt'> 3rd Floor style='font-size:11.0pt'> Clearwater
House 4-7 Manchester Street style='font-size:8.0pt'>London style='font-size:8.0pt'>W1U 3AE style='font-size:8.0pt'>Location: UK style='font-size:8.0pt'>UK Cell/SMS: +447958002382 style='font-size:11.0pt'> Indian
Cell/SMS: +919884690539 style='font-size:8.0pt'>Email: [address removed] style='font-size:11.0pt'> Skype:
mattrogers1975 style='font-size:8.0pt'>Twitter: aroxo style='font-size:8.0pt'>Blog: target="_blank">http://www.aroxo.com/blog/mattr feed < href="http://www.aroxo.com/blog/mattr/index.php/feed/" target="_blank">http://www.aroxo.com/blog/mattr/index.php/feed/>

From: style='font-size:10.0pt'> [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Ed Mellett
Sent: 20 April 2009 13:29
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla style='font-size:11.0pt'>

Me too

Guys with geek’n'rolla tickets – fancy meeting for a drink before the
party and then mosying down after? Somewhere in Leicester Square…

Ed [address removed]
UK: +44 (0) 7818 401787

From: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla
To: [address removed]
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:24:25 -0400

i’m going to the geek n rolla afterparty too. bought my
ticket, and i’m going.

"Errant Ramblings: Mitzi Szereto’s
Weblog" href="http://mitziszereto.com/blog" target="_blank">http://mitziszereto.com/blog
Twitter: @mitziszereto
Also at Facebook, MySpace,LinkedIn, Plaxo, Flickr, Tumblr, Plurk, Hi5,
etc.

— On Mon, 20/4/09, iqbalgandham <[address removed]>
wrote: From: iqbalgandham <[address removed]>

Subject: Re: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla
To: [address removed]
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 1:03 PM
Yup am actually there
also, decided the weather was far too good to be stuck inside, so give me a
shout, or ping me on my mobile, nice to put a face to a email address

Iqbal

style='font-size:10.0pt'>

From: Ed Mellett <[address removed]>

To: [address removed]
Sent: Monday, 20 April, 2009 13:01:22
Subject: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

I’ll be there too :p

You know there’s an OpenCoffee tomorrow morning too? – 9-11am.

Ed @
WikiJob.co.uk

From: [address removed]
Subject: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla
To: [address removed]
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:57:46 -0400
Guys

Nice to meet a few people at opensoho, if anyone is at the geek n rolla
afterparty give me a shout, I’l be popping along, one of the startup
vouchahcha that I was involved with at launch 48, is pitching at GNR, and
miniseedcamp.    style='font-size:10.0pt'>iqbal gandham
M: +44 776 499 4243
  Chat: style='font-size:10.0pt'> Skype:
feelin_tired style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>Y! messenger: style='font-size:10.0pt'>feelin_tired
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I’ve been on this list a number of
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entrepreneurs are qualifying themselves out of any serious consideration by any
potential investors/partners/collaborators etc by showing their inability to
read simple instructions.

If I was an angel/investor on this list, I
would never part with cash to someone who cannot understand the simple
principle of how this email list works and how to get off it again…

Just also an opportunity to say that I
find this service really valuable, I’ve taken much from the conversations
and used directly or indirectly with regards to my business.

Thank you to everyone who makes the effort
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size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Verdana>GigJunkie

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size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Verdana>4th Floor

w:st="on"> style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#1F497D'>95 Southwark Street

w:st="on"> style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#1F497D'>London size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Verdana> SE1 0HX

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size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Verdana>Mob: 07974 670 946

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Berks RG31 5AL.

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geek n rolla

Brian Milnes — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:08:00 +0000

Omar,

If you contact your local business link they will explain how to
register in their Supplier Brokerage Service (they each have their own
variant).

These systems allow clients to search for suitable service
providers, who have skills and experience pertaining to their business needs.
The clients can then select who they wish to use.

Otherwise, it depends upon creating relationships with Business
Link advisors and teams. And in that, I wish you the very best of luck…

Brian

From: [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Omar Miah
Sent: 22 April 2009 14:35
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

Brian

Can you say how one goes about getting on the other side in
relation to Business Link?

i.e. become a paid advisor like yourself

Omar

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Brian Milnes <[address removed]> wrote:

Go to Business Link, Tobias,
they can give you such advice.

Brian

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07971 886 113

01223 690 550

From: lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Tobias
Sent: 22 April 2009 14:07

To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

Hello people

Im brand new to meetup and was wondering if you regularly get investors along
to chat? I need some advice about structuring a business plan.

Any feedback appreciated.

Thanks

From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:17:41 -0400

Getting painful. See the end of
the email. Or go to target="_blank">http://www.meetup.com/account/comm/ to change your
settings.

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Chris

I have to agree with you

It really winds me up getting blatant spam/rubbish emails

But… there *are* some really good and useful discussions

I’ve personally found some of the links posted in discussions really useful

+ I’m sure there must be an option to only receive a ‘daily digest’ of
emails – as opposed to receiving every single email?

Not 100% sure, but that functionality is available on most forum type
platforms

So, instead of getting every reply, you’ll just get the one daily email?

Omar

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Chris Padfield <[address removed]>
wrote:

1. style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Unsubscribe from the group

If you don?t want to do this because
you want access to the group but not the mail then:

2. style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Set up a filter to delete mail from the
group. If you are unsure how to do this, I am sure someone on the list can
explain.

Or, which I imagine is what most
people on this list do, including me:

From: [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Michael Fotoohi
Sent: 22 April 2009 09:41

To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

Just a typical stupid respose as usual. Go and do something
useful.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>Error! Filename not
specified.

— On Wed, 22/4/09, Fabrice Ward <[address removed]>
wrote:

From: Fabrice Ward <[address removed]>

Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla
To: [address removed]
Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 3:07 AM

Nope, sorry.
Don?t usually reply, but a whingeing mail like this is just irresistible.

On 22/04/2009 01:32, "Michael
Fotoohi" <[address removed]>
wrote:

— On Mon, 20/4/09, simon <[address removed]>
wrote: From: simon <[address removed]>

Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla

To: [address removed]

Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 2:32
PM mitzi – so your the investor with £10 million to invest! c u
there

— On Mon, 20/4/09, simon <[address removed]>
wrote: From: simon <[address removed]>

Subject: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla
To: [address removed]

From: [address removed]
[mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Matt Rogers
Sent: 20 April 2009 13:48
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla style='font-size:11.0pt'> We?ll also be there to announce the launch,
after 2 years in stealth mode, of Aroxo! By the way, you can sign up for an
email alert when we go live here: target="_blank">www.aroxo.com < target="_blank">http://www.aroxo.com> . Cheers, lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Error! Filename not specified. style='font-size:8.0pt'>Matt Rogers – Co-Founder style='font-size:11.0pt'> Aroxo < href="http://www.aroxo.com/" target="_blank">http://www.aroxo.com/>
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From: style='font-size:10.0pt'> [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]]
On Behalf Of Ed Mellett
Sent: 20 April 2009 13:29
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [entrepreneur-1056] geek n rolla style='font-size:11.0pt'>

Me too

Guys with geek’n'rolla tickets – fancy meeting for a drink before the
party and then mosying down after? Somewhere in Leicester Square…

Ed [address removed]
UK: +44 (0) 7818 401787